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home | newest check | boards | help index | log | ps | userlogin | send sysop | slog | status forward | bcm news | users | version | remove cookieG8MNY > TECH 11.05.25 16:56l 125 Lines 5360 Bytes #8 (0) @ WW BID : 32357_GB7CIP Subj: Marconi 2331A Distortion Factor Path: JH4XSY<JE7YGF<LU4ECL<LU9DCE<EA2RCF<I0OJJ<GB7CIP Sent: 250511/0750Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:32357 [Caterham Surrey GBR] From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO To : TECH@WW By G8MNY (New Jan 21) (8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850, Terminal Font) I bought this quite old large 19" 4U unit, made around 1975. It is an AF Distortion meter, noise meter (weighting option) & an AF volt meter. Frequency Freq Band Cal Power _____________________________________________________ ウレトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトソウ Inputウウ /~~~~~\ . ( ) -~~~~- ( )ウウ Levelウウ ( ) / .-. \ ( ) / / \ ウウ ウウ ウ ウ ウ ウ / / \ ウウMeter ウウ . \ '-' / o~--.__.--~ ウウ Inputウウ ( ) \_____/ ウウ Rangeウウ ' . . ウウ ウウ ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ウウ AF ウウ o o ゚ ' ゚ o o ウウOutput Inputウタトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトトルウ ~ワワ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ワワ~ 600R Fine Freq Phase Mode LF cut Range Although with 20 germanium transistors & a -15V PSU, it works fine. Main issues are large dirty switches & scratchy wire wound pescision pots. SPECIFICATION Volt Ranges: 1-3-10, 7 in all from 30V down to 1mV FSD or in dBm. 1M Input. Built in voltage calibrator. Input: 1-10 (10K) & 10-30V (10-100K) & 600R term (some models AM RF det option) Notch Freq: 20Hz-20kHz in 6 bands, Fine trim for Freq & Phase to notch -80dB. Bandwidths: 20Hz-100kHz, or 20Hz-20kHz @-3dB. Weighting: one filter option for Comms, Broadcast, or other is fitted. LF Cut: -3dB @ 400Hz steep roll off hum filter. Power: 95-130V or 190-260V AC 40-500Hz 3VA, or -18 to -45V 25mA DC. Output: up to 150mV @ 1K of what is being metered, for oscilloscope. USES AF Voltmeter measures a wide range on average reading meter. Distortion measuring & seeing Oscillator's & Amplifier's figures, adjusting for min distortion on FM discriminators. Noise measurement, with filters as needed for accurate assessment of kit noise. A modern way of doing this might be with a laptop soundcard & suitable (free) AF spectrum analyser/scope program! There are 3 main parameters to Audio quality.... FREQUENCY RANGE Here is the approximate frequency plot for some audio sources. Note that the old disk system was not really limited & special equipment can do Quad audio with high frequency sub-carriers! ウSub Sonicウ<- - - - -Young Human ear response - - - - - - ->ウUltra Sonic > ウI BASS MID TREBLE ウN <- - - - - - - - - - -Disk H i F i- - - - - - - - - - - > ウF < - - - - - - - - -C.D. H i F i- - - - - - - - - - > ウR <- - - - - - - Broadcast HiFi - - - - - - - - > ウA < - - - - - Original Cassette- - - - - -> ウ <- - - - - ト A.M. Radio - - - - - -> ウ F E E L I N G < - - COMMS - - -> B A T S タトトトツトトトトツトトツトトトツトトトトツトトトトトトトツトトトツトトトトツトトトトトトトツトトトツトトトトツトトツトツトトツ>Frequency DC 10 20 30 50 100 300 500 1k 3 5 10 15 20 30kHz CDs are the best source most people are familiar with, its frequency range is limited by the 44kHz sampling rate & the requirement to filter off all the frequencies higher than 22kHz to stop aliasing mixes caused by the sampling rate. SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO This is the measure of unwanted noises below the wanted sound.. e.g. Hiss & Hum, or windage/engine noise, Neighbours/street noises etc. 0dBエ Noisy Conversation 10 エ Poor Comms, NORMAL CAR 20 エ Fair Comms 30 エ VERY QUIET CAR AM RADIO 40 エ Typical Cassette Tape, Living rooms 50 エ Reel-Reel tape, Dolby Cassette 60 エ New Vinyl Record FM RADIO/TV SOUND 70 エ Mini disk (unmasked noise) 80 エ Dat tape. DAB 90 エ Perfect Digital CD, apparent Minidisk 100 エ 110 エ 120 エ Ear Threshold Signal : Silence to Pain ratio With Digital sources there is also "Quantization Noise/Distortion", which is due to the sample step size, & is a set No of dBs below any sound level for logarithmic level sampling. HARMONIC DISTORTION This is the amount of unwanted signals generated in harmonics of the wanted signal, in the audio pass band of interest. It is usually very dependent on the level, except for digital systems where it is a mathematical design feature. Note the ear generates these too! It is measured as a % of the signal, so 10% = -20dB in harmonics. % dB 10 ナ -20 Cheap AM Radio at high Volume, Comms Audio 5 ナ -26 Film Optical Sound 3 ナ -30 Cassette & Reel Tapes (peak) 1 ナ -40 Quality Valve Amps AM BROADCAST .5 ナ -46 High Quality Disk FM BROADCAST .3 ナ -50 Most Loudspeakers (not loud) .1 ナ -60 Most AF Amps, DAB 0.05ナ -66 Good modern AF Amps. 0.03ナ -70 Most Digital AF sources. CD ~MD ~Mpeg3? Sometimes the above parameters are joined together in a "Signal In Noise And Distortion" (SINAD) rating for measured RF signal level of a Rx. See Tech bul "Marconi Distortion Meter TF2337", "AF Waveform Generator (RS)", & "FeelTeck Dual DDS Osc FY6600-60M". Why don't U send an interesting bul? 73 de John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP
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