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G8MNY > TECH 02.07.25 17:06l 92 Lines 4350 Bytes #1 (0) @ WW BID : 35909_GB7CIP Read: GUEST Subj: Simple Crystal Oven Path: JH4XSY<IW0QNL<HB9ON<DK0WUE<PD0LPM<VE3CGR<GB7OSW<GB7BED<GB7JED<GB7CIP Sent: 250702/0800Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:35909 [Caterham Surrey GBR] From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO To : TECH@WW By G8MNY (Updated Nov 08) (8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850, Terminal Font) Here is a design revamped from an old Radcom, I have used it with some success on a commercial MW Tx to stabilise the frequency. Other uses are for frequency counters & UHF/SHF Transceivers & Transverters where good frequency accuracy & stability are important. THERMAL COMPENSATION Before making an oven try to compensate the Xtal osc with negative temperature coefficient capacitors instead of existing caps in the osc circuit. TEMP Net Xtal Measure the frequency e.g. on a SSB Rx. Heat the 50 ｴ \ � .�' Xtal with the tip of a soldering iron near by & 40 ｴ \ � .�' note the tone change. Substitute a capacitor & heat 30 ｴ \�.�' up that (not melt it) to see if you can get the 20 ｴ .泚\ opposite effect. This can easily half the drift 10 ｴ .�' � \Cap without an oven, & if your lucky by far more. ﾀﾄﾂﾄﾂﾄﾂﾄﾂﾄﾂﾄﾂﾄﾂﾄﾂﾄﾄ>Freq 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 kHz drift When you have the best compensation you can get, make an oven around both the Xtal & the compensation cap. The aim of the oven is not to cook the Xtal osc & its components, but to maintain a temperature slightly higher than the hottest running conditions, & by doing this eliminate frequency drift due to slow warm up & ambient temperature changes. OVEN CIRCUIT This is quite simple. But mechanically quite important to get a few things in the right place. ﾚﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾂﾄﾄﾄﾄ+12V R1 R2 Vcc The negative temperature coefficient ｳ _____ｳ thermistor TH1 must be mounted above the ｳｳ/ ｳ Xtal so that it is the last thing to get ﾂﾃﾄﾄｴNPN ｳ DARLINGTON hot. The NPN darlington & R2 are placed Vb ｳｳ\e ｳ/ TAB type below the Xtal, mount the NPN so its tab 1.2V ｳﾀﾄﾄｴNPN does not touch the Xtal & fill the gaps | TH1 ｳ\e with heatsink thermal compound. ﾁﾀﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾁﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄ0V MOUNTING Here the Xtal is mounted horizontally! ｳｳ TOP..::::::::.. Foam polystyrene ｳｳｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱ ::'' <TH1> '':: heat cover PCB ｳｳ <TH1> ｱｱFoam ::: /~~~~~~~~\ ::: outside ｳｳﾚﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄｿｱｱcover ::: ( Xtal ) ::: all hot Xtal ｳｳ=ｳｳｱｱ ::: \________/ ::: components holderｳｳ=ｳ______ｳｱｱ ::: [NPN](R2) ::: ｳｳﾛﾛﾛﾛﾛﾛｱｱ ::..~~~~~ ..:: Thermal past ｳｳ NPN & R2 ｱｱ ''::::::::'' between NPN, R2 ｳｳｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱ Xtal & TH1 ｳｳ Over component view Side view R2 is the main heating component & limits the current & power the heater takes, it therefore determines the warm up time. Typical value 100R 2W for a 12V rail. After a short time as everything has started to warm up the NPN darlington then becomes the main source of heat as the base drive is reduced. Resistances of R1 & TH1 determine the operate temperature, R1 turning on the NPN darlington & TH1 turning it off. To find a suitable value for R1, heat up your thermistor TH1 until it is uncomfortable to hold (50) & measure its resistance. Then some simple maths for (Vcc - Vb) 12V & a darlington gives x9 R1 = ﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄﾄ x TH1 that value, should give you Vb a starting value for R1 Do a test without the cover to check it is all functioning & that the current goes down (NPN collector voltage goes up) when the lot is hot. Make sure it is not too hot (increase R1 if it is) that it could melt the foam cover material. Then make a foam polystyrene heat cover for it all, to dramatically cut down the power consumption & maintain a steadier temperature. Higher temperature foam can be made in a mould from expanded foam (cavity sealing/thermal insulation etc.). See also my related tech buls, "Crystal Drift Compensation", "198kHz Off Air Standard", "Off Air Lock for Ref Osc", "Comparing Off Air Freq Standards", & "Calibrating Frequency". Why don't U send an interesting bul? 73 de John G8MNY @ GB7CIP
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